Old English Game Cock in the U.K

Too long in the back, no pectoral muscles. Wheres the boxing beak?

Son this Is an Oxford champion , not a wannabe ,this is a good example of the correct interpretation of the written word .How can you assess there is no pectoral muscle from veiwing a photo ? This is something that can only be assessed when in hand .

now, Thats a nice fowl

He is a wonderful oxford OEG!! Im with you Pegawl 1 standard 2 interpretations neither type can can be judged with the other interpretation!

Thanks Drover and HF hunter , I have no issue with the exhibition counter part of the old english pit fowl . They are a credit to the fanciers skills . But to introduce outside blood such as silkie to get the gypsy face in black greys and orange reds mongrelizes the breed in my opinion , just as the introduction of cornish game for breadth etc , it shows the breeders art . One has to question if the fowl are what they are supposed to be. Just look at the name Old (how old is the family we are looking at ?) English (Is the fowl of straight english decent or of mixed blood) and finally Game (Is the fowl we are looking at game in our opinion). Should a cock fail in any one of these requisites than its not an oxford fowl in my humble opinion.

You mention the silkie and the Indians put through to exhibition type but i guess this was done in the "make up of Exhibition OEG". What about the influence of American blood and Asil, Thai etc although many wont admit, this blood is put through some so called "pure lines" of Oxford. Do you ever wonder if to much emphasis is being put on handling when some fellows truely believe a good oxford can be judged in the dark?

The only game fowl blood that the English didnt use that the Americans have is probably the jap . So long as the cross is used for a practical purpose , but one wouldnt consider the offspring pure per se but would be considered fit for purpose.Yes I do consider to much emphasis is placed on handling , but when assessing a fowl one needs to take it in hand , sort of like judging a horse under hand than saddle. There has been far more blood put into the english show fowl here than what I've mentioned , a good test to see if a fowl carries oriental blood is to tickle the fowl near its vent and if oriental blood courses thru its veins it will self preen.You can tell a good one in the dark if you understand the basic principles of a working gamefowl . There was a famous englishman who was blind , but could pick a fowl of the right sort just on handling.

Pegawl........must say this a very good looking cock irregardless of what others may say, appears to have pretty good station, fine feather and for me the the best yet is that he is red with white legs............ a great trait in my opinion.

Thanks Sam , I think anyone would be proud to own a bird such as this , wish he was mine .

BeatenEgg, read some of the notes in the standard.
Pegawl knows what a good game fowl should have, top looking fowl, a real oxford champ....

A top fowl.

nice fowl .